LAUGH OUT LOUD: Leftist shows up to debate Islam, it doesn’t end well for him
Student: You started off talking about
Thomas Jefferson’s letter. I’m actually at an advantage. I saw you
speak at Gonzaga, so I’ve seen you read that letter before, and I’ve
seen you give this talk once before. West: I stay on message.
I stay consistent, don’t I? Student: You talked about Thomas
Jefferson’s letter, and you call yourself a student of history. I read
Thomas Jefferson’s letter, and what I think you did leave out is that,
while they did to go to Tripoli, Thomas Jefferson also slept
with a Quran by his bed, and when he wrote the Constitution,
he incorporated values of the Quran and of the Islamic faith. And so,
you talk about this, and you kind of trace this history that we have against
Islamism or Islamists, and you talk about… You almost paint this “us
versus them” mentality. When you talk about your…
West: No, they painted the “us versus them” mentality.
Student: When you talked about Fort Hood and the personal touch you
had there, but when we talk about Al-Shabaab and the Kenyan Westgate
mall shooting… I was there the year before that. When we talk about the
Taliban in Pakistan, those are people of my community that
are being targeted. West: Okay, so why don’t
you join me in this fight? Student: Right, and so I am.
West: No, no. Who don’t you join me in this fight?
Student: You’ve left out… West: No, I just asked you,
“Why don’t you join me in this fight?” Student: And we have, and that’s my
point, we have. When you look at… West: How?
Student: When you look at members of the Islamic community, when you
look at these open letters that people have written denouncing these fights,
and when you look at the people in the Islamic world, in the Middle East,
who have joined these fights with the United States, in cooperation
with the United States, and if you look at what they receive in response to it.
If you look at the Iraqi policemen that participated in the fight against Islamic
radicalism, whatever you want to call it… West: I stood next to those
soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. Student: But my point is: where is the
value in demonizing an entire group of people if you’re looking for
their help in return? West: Woah, woah.
Time out, slick. Student: But that’s what you’re doing.
West: Time out. You did not hear me demonize an entire group of people.
Student: But you’re tracing this entire history as if you’re…
West: You did not hear me demonize an entire group of people.
Student: Continue, sorry. Continue. West: You did not hear me demonize
an entire group of people. I was very specific in what I said.
I said “Islamism” and “Islamists.” I never said “Muslims,” okay?
There is an ideology out there that we need to deal with. If you
want me to go into a historical exegesis of Islamism, I can
start in 622… Student: I’ve seen you
give this talk before. West: …after the Hijra, and explain
how the verses in the Quran did change from the previous peaceful verses
from 610 to 622. But there’s… Student: But you’re choosing…
West: No, I’m not choosing anything. Student: You leave out a good chunk…
I’ve seen you talk about… You reference this history
in the ancient world. West: Dude, why do I need
to sit here and talk about… [Audience applause]
Student: Hold on, hold on. I’ve seen… West: You want me to
make you feel good. Student: No, that’s not what I want.
West: That’s what you want. Student: No, I never said that.
West: You want me to come up here and blow sunshine up everybody’s butt,
and make them feel good, and say, “Everything is hunky-dory.
There are no bad guys out there.” No, I’m not going to do that.
Student: No sir, the world is not that kind of place, I understand that.
West: I’m not going to do that. Student: I understand. The world… [Audience applause]
West: What good does it do for me to stand up here and talk
about all the great things? We have to come together and talk
about that which is out there that is bad. Bashar al-Assad is just as bad as
any Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. I mean, to drop chemical weapons
on your own people? I stand against that. So I don’t know
what you want me to stand up here and say. You want me to obfuscate,
deny, and dismiss an evil that exists? I ain’t going to do it.
I ain’t going to do it. [Audience applause]