Jehovah's Witnesses and the belief that children are "worse than ever"

Posted By on July 12, 2019



hey everybody welcome back to the channel today I wanted to talk about kids these days because Jovi's witnesses always paint the next generation as being worse than the one that came before it and that's not true and I'm gonna talk about why that's not true I had this idea this hit me today when I went to the grocery store and I got in lined two for the cashier and the cashier was very young 16 year old girl I'm assuming 16 she looked really young and it was clear that she was new to this and I'm pretty sure this was her first job based on her behavior she's very friendly very professional very polite very excited to be working and I thought that was great and every time I see that with very young people it always reminds me of how Watchtower speaks so ill of young people oh they're so immoral oh they're so dishonest oh they're so bad oh the wickedness Satan Satan Satan you know if it controls them all and yet every day I see examples of that simply not being true so today it was the cashier at the grocery store yesterday I went to lunch with Beth and met the restaurant have to go to the bathroom so go to the bathroom and as I'm going in there's a little boy coming out gotta be like six years old little guy little surprises parents hadn't walked over there with him but that's not the point so he opens the door for me and insists on holding the door and it's a little awkward because the door opens in and so I have to kind of like scooch around him but the point is he was being polite his parents weren't there watching him to make sure he did the right thing he just was polite because that's what he had been taught to be you know and think about that now Watchtower says that anytime you're not under constant surveillance right you're gonna do the wrong thing if you don't believe me just look up look up their chaperone rules for dating it's just ridiculous it's like they think the second you're alone with one else the clothes are coming off in your jumping into a bed it's just nonsense right this little boy with no parents around nobody watching no surveillance it's this one holding the door for me and hey you know when I say thank you he says you're welcome and he goes off to where he's going and there's a Starbucks nearby here is another example which I go to occasionally I'm sorry Starbucks man's and not really a Starbucks man I only go through when I'm in a hurry and you do drive-through I go to a local indie coffee shop here it's way better and a lot cheaper too and less have to go through the drive-through and the kids that work at this Starbucks they're all polite they're all friendly and I have yet to bump into one who's not and just kids in interactions when I go to the places that I bring my kids to play at the park or the indoor playgrounds where they go to play with their other friends who are homeschool and stuff like that or at the churches that we attend sometimes the kids are friendly the kids are nice it just belies the claims that watchtower maids that oh all these kids are terrible in every generation is worse than the next that simply isn't true the data does not prove that to be true if you look at the levels of violence today it's lower if you look at the crime rate today it's lower I mean look at the crime rate in the United States for the early 1990s if you want to see some really high crime rates go back to the 1970s there was a big spike then to how is it possible that things are getting better if the world is only getting worse because it's just careening off into its destruction in the last days it doesn't make any sense now does that mean that kids today are better and superior in every way than the kids of the past well no of course not and some things that we might define is better or worse or only define that way because they're different to me for example let's say I'm in a group from private prior generation and I grew up with a certain mindset a certain belief system when it comes to morality or something like that and then I see kids behaving in a way that I was taught bad or wrong or not acceptable or whatever I'm going to make a moral judgment about them not because what they're doing is actually harmful not because what those kids are doing is causing anybody any trouble but just because it's different from what I was raised to think was right it was wrong but can you actually say in an objective way did their behaviors bad right now maybe in some ways in some cases you can but in most cases now it's really just a matter of opinion and that's I know that's true because I read this great Mental Floss article earlier today it was like 15 historical quotes that show that parents always think the younger generation is ruining everything and it goes back through history 19th century early 20th century quotes 19th century clothes 18th century 17th century it goes all the way back to the Roman poet Horace of the 1st century BC saying in effect kids these days are worse than ever and I listen to a podcast it's a favorite of mine called stuff you should know highly recommended I believe it was last year they had one of their episodes I wish I remember what it was where one of the hosts was laughing about an Egyptian document he had read about from a friend it was a letter from a friend to another friend talking about kids these days it's terrible they aren't like 5,000 years old that belief that the generation that follows is worse than us because they're different from us has been going on since human beings had worked or in history so yeah that just makes sense think about it that's tribal human thinking my group is right your group is wrong and it doesn't matter what defines those groups it can be what your favorite music is it can be your socioeconomic status your education level what country you come from how old you are your moral sensibilities you were raised with compared to what they were raised with it doesn't matter what it is you're gonna think that the group that isn't your group is not right and that you are right because that's human nature but for jehovah's witnesses it's insidious because they use this difference to try and show how bad the world is and think about that not just when it comes to age differences oh this next generation so terrible look at these headlines they use that just in general like well Jehovah's Witnesses do have a belief system that's very different for most other people and so they pointed everyone outside the group and say look how different they are from us and we have the truth we're right so this world must be careening off into destruction we must be in the last days because they're not living up to our ancient archaic and often erroneous moral concepts and principles and ideals right because they're different they must be bad hmm when did that ever work out for Society in a good way never and that's not limited to choice where this is all fundamentalist evangelical Christian groups do that and all fundamentalist religions period who speak that way about anyone who doesn't have their truth had that same negative impact in effect not only on themselves but on the people around them so it's very dangerous thinking and Jehovah's Witnesses apply that thinking to the younger generation and demonize them just because their ideals and principles they were raised with are different from that was witnesses hold T Jehovah's Witnesses are very much stuck in the early to mid 20th century their view of women is very much women are to be subservient to their husbands children are to be seen and not heard you know that power structure the family is like a power structure with the father on top the head of the household and the wife the little submissive wife and then the kids who do everything that they're told that's how Watchtower thinks they're stuck in that old mentality and that's not healthy for anyone in the family doesn't mean that witnesses can't be loving parents who care about their children it just shows it just means that that thinking can have a negative impact on the members of that household and collectively on the organization of Jewish witnesses as a whole it's not healthy thinking and you know it's not healthy because you see all the headlines that involve family members what happens children what happens to wives when they don't obey and things like that you you get a lot of that kind of destructive behavior in the families and organization that shows witnesses they deny a lot of that but it's in the headlines who goes to court can't deny that well they can but we wouldn't deny the factual nature of those things we know that these things happen I know that these things happen I knew people who behave like this and we read about it all the time on social media we see people post their experiences on YouTube and things like that that all filters down to the youngest generation to the children who are coming up in that social environment so to me it's ironic that Watchtower says Oh kids these days are worse than ever when I'm thinking well yeah maybe your kids are but only because you're making them that way that your doctrine ation is worse than ever so yeah they're gonna be worse than ever but fortunately most kids don't stick with the belief system of Jehovah's Witnesses at least not ones that are born into it in the United States the Pew survey did a Pew Research group did a survey that shows that 66 percent of children born into the religion of Jewish witnesses in the United States they leave when they're adults they take off they're done 2/3 what does that tell you about their religion but that aside just everything in my own experience all the statistical data I've seen demonstrates clearly that Watchtower is very much mistaken and their view of kids these days in the next generation and when I think back to when I was a teenager okay we were different in some ways that we didn't have cell phones so we weren't always on social media there wasn't always a device in our face and you could say that that was a positive for kids when I was a teenager but when I was a teenager we didn't think about things in the same way as teenagers today I was teenager teenagers today care more about the environment more about social justice you know they're less likely to view people who aren't like them in a negative light when compared to my generation and that way they're better than my generation and the farther back you go so even better the youngest generation are if you go back to the early 20th century and think about how women were treated well this generation is far better not perfect but much better than the generations of the past and women had no rights at all or basically property and if you're talking about what morally people today are worse well my brother tries to make that claim but his thinking when he says moral what he means actually more okay by your rigid archaic very strict conservative standards yeah you could argue that people are less moral but then people a couple hundred years ago also thought it was okay to own other people as property in the United States so in that way people today hear far more moral than they were in the past and if you go way back to the time of the Greeks and the Romans they were certainly less sexually immoral when compared to that very conservative Christian standards then people are today so doesn't that mean that people's morals have gotten better if you use that standard so how can we be living in the last days again see the reality is that like I said groups interpret the behavior of other groups that is different from their own is bad just because it's different Joby's witnesses are no different they see younger people who behave differently who no longer accept the archaic rigid rules that is what this is what have everybody applies to themselves and they say well they must be bad because they don't agree with us well that doesn't define bad the definition of bad in my opinion is are you hurting other people are you causing harm to other people I would argue that by that definition Jehovah's Witnesses and their rules and policies are far more destructive than the general moral climate that you find in the United States today or at least an or in any other country that I've looked into researched or visited so no kids these days aren't worse they're not worse anymore than they were actually worse in the first century BC when Horace the Roman poet was griping about them they're not worse they're just different but Joe as witnesses have to believe they're worse because that's the only way they can prove that we're deep in the last days me and must be coming because look how bad those people are because they're not like and that kind of thinking has never done anybody well I hope you liked this video if you did be sure to click like do not forget to subscribe and hit that little notification icon so you get notified when I release new videos and as always thanks for watching

Posted by Lewis Heart

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  1. There is a quote from Socrates who lived over 1500 years ago saying "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers"

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  2. I went into high school thinking everyone would be immoral and selfish. What actually happened was I found 3 great non JW friends who I hung out with throughout those years. I would have had literally no one otherwise, at school or at home or at the meetings. We never smoked, never drank, never bunked off. They are still my friends to this day and stuck by me, even when I didn’t reach out to them because I was so isolated and unhappy, they still reached out to me. A couple of girls at our school got pregnant but one of them is still with that boyfriend 30 years later and they have a family! Oh and try working in retail. No one is as rude as people in their 60+ years 😂

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  3. I married a worldly man, he was a virgin till I got my hands on himraised JW 🤣 my kids grew up with a worldly dad and the one that’s married was a virgin when she married. The next one down, her fiancée, still a virgin at 24 and he grew up worldly … JW org loves to blow their trumpet. If you want double agents, get them from the org,. We grew up learning how to live a double life like it’s no body’s business. 😆

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  4. Southern people in general are more courteous. Ive lived in az ca wa or tn sc ne tx. In reference to your lil boy in the bathroom comment

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  5. It's not just the jw. Most religions teach the in the absence of god we are nothing but animals. Few people realize that those children will be in charge one day

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  6. Those 8 assholes push this…so they can justify corporate…I mean corporal punishment…who hasn’t seen that in JDumb land?

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  7. Good childrens is they who all coming to WTBS organization and giving all their ice cream money, regulary and annualy, and always happy to be molested sexualy, and do not tell to anybody, all they naughtiness will be forgiven by jojobah, 🖐🏼😎👉👦👩‍⚕️👶👵👩👨👩‍⚖…..🏃‍♂️🏃‍♀️ 👀 their god of swollen belly button PHILIPPIANS 3:19

    With what kind of terminology the GB made conclusion of things ? With their heart condition, what is GB heart condition ? Decadent, hypocricy and hypocritical, nothing more obvious than that, mean while their position still help them, till its crumble,,, soon , they just like any average old man facing the evening fall on their head, bandit with stolen gold crown , people called him a king , that is what the world made by to day, false prophets stole God word, to make them look like the sages of ultimate time,

    Can the liars telling the truth ? Yes they can, but they CANT live with what they say, they cant practice whatever good things they say , satan can teach love to many peoples, to be good to him, not to others, but he cant practice those love that he taught for many others ,

    Life is about qualification in every matters of doing things, its relating to the appointed ones as well , who is qualified who is not, its about being COMPOTENT OR NOT , is it GB COMPOTENT and QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT CHILDRENS STATUS ? NO clearly not, since they protect the phaedofiliac, its enough to say 🖐🏼😁,

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  8. I don't think that children themselves have changed. If their behavior, attitudes, & morals have changed, it's due to the way they are raised (or lack thereof) by their parents & by their environment.

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  9. Its all on video now, we can see what's been going on for years. We get to see the stupid as its happening or shortly thereafter.

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  10. Maybe when 2 JW's date, they do jump in the sack as soon as there is no chaperone. The way your wife tells it, there is a lot of pent up sexual tension in young JW's. Could be they are done waiting on the perfect mate and just need to get laid. I feel sorry for them.

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  11. Right on point about how youth in every generation can have wonderful attributes and are simply different.
    Although we know sadly that in some countries filled with government unrest, the very young are recruited and or forced into killing anyone against an opposing political group. I don’t mean to veer of the main subject, but I tend to think about how many youth around the world were never allowed to be children and are forced into violence lest they or their families are threatened. Is this different from centuries down the line? No. Different day, same beat.
    Jon the background sound of the cecadas was intense. Amazing. As always, love your videos and look forward to them. ❤️👍

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  12. 😹😹😹Love that story about the Egyptian letter and the author complaining about today's kids being badly behaved! He he ! In my opinion today's kids are more educated, and with education comes wisdom, with wisdom ethical thinking. I've lost my purse 3 TIMES in the last 3 year's and each time it was found and returned by a young person. It had cards and cash and yes, I live in the big bad city too!

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  13. Analyzer 😁 I have been talking about this misconception for about three years now! The statement that younge people are getting more disrespectful or "These kids today!" Has become a CLECHE.
    What I see is something entirely different. Like you I'm seeing more polite younger people than I did back in the 80's. I belive this is because of the fight against child abuse. The less grown ups treat their children like lesser human beings and the more parents teach with better communication skills used and the more example of being polite themselves the better the children behave and the less likely they get into trouble. Sure when our children don't get the right kind of love and attention at home, they will search for the wrong kind of attention. That's why there is more parental advice about talking and listening to how are children are doing everyday. But there was a time when children were expected to be seen and not heard. IN MY OPINION grown ups need to check their own behaviors. Often in my work I see and I hate to say it but rude grownups with a do as I say not as I do. Old attitudes die hard but it's something we got from our ancestors. I do notice a lot more polite children and even teens who seem to have a more upbeat positive outlook on life and many are quick to help older ones. Thank you for talking about this.

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  14. You’re absolutely right. Stephen Lett said on the Saturday at the convention that children are inherently bad when they are born, in so many words.

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  15. Perhaps it is the way one is brought up, but in general I think that kids, my grandkids as well, are more disrespectful, self assuming, haughty (2 Timothy 3:1-5). Social media does not help at all either. Kids blatantly doing gross acts and videoing them like licking ice cream out of the containers in the grocery stores, spitting in Listerine bottles, acts of bulling others and killing and stabbings on facebook. Witness or not these are definitely the Biblical end times scenario that was prophesied. Just as in the days of Noah………!

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  16. Unfortunately JW kids may have their worldly spirit undermined. Worldly kids are aware, loving and positive spiritually. Only a few from any background have problems.

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  17. This is one of the first things that helped wake me up—first realizing crime was going down in Canada (and the US). And then finding teens after teens like that.

    I played Steven Pinkers lectures on the decrease in violence over and over for my wife at work. I have to think this is one thing that helped her wake up.

    It’s a great thing to share because it’s not specifically JW. While it does go counter to their narrative, it’s not an attack on their specific beliefs really. Pointing out that 90% of the world was in extreme poverty 100 years ago and today it’s 10%, is a positive thing. One that doesn’t really attack then and yet it goes against what they believe. I think a JW would likely just think the numbers are wrong. That’s why it’s so important to point out trends they know have changed. Slavery, once totally legal in all counties and done in the open now gone. Lynchings. Gone. Separate schools for black people and Jews. Gone. Separate drinking fountains. Judicial torture like stoning to death or all the things the Middle Ages became famous for. Gone.
    The Black Death killed maybe 50% of Europe and 30% of the globe. That would be like China and India disappearing in a decade. Nothing like that today. Things people know but don’t think about. You could legally beat your wife in the United States up until 1920. And beating children with rods used to be common. When people have these trends pointed out to them, it’s more easy for them to accept the other numbers.

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  18. Teenagers today (in US) are even having less sex! (Possibly because more porn). And less likely to get pregnant. And drink less.

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  19. “Surgery without anesthesia.” These 3 words perfectly illustrate the suffering of the past.

    Child mortality (death from age 0-5) was about 40-50% for almost all of history globally. Today it’s about 3%. Pneumonia, infectious disease, diarrhea dehydration used to kill so many children globally.

    Often, JW will find anecdotes from Latin American countries where violence is not decreasing or they will find anecdote stories about this or that. But you just never see a graph or chart of global homicide. Or on war death rates or number of wars or poverty or anything. There is a reason for this. Emotional stories are convincing but shouldn’t be.
    They also tend to lot look at global numbers but find the worse of the worse countries. There was one homicide in Japan in all of 2015. One! Pointing that out proves nothing. We should care about global numbers.

    Another mistake they make is looking at absolute numbers rather than the rate or percentage change. There was a massive explosion in population partially because things got better. Health care for better. Infectious disease declined. So the population skyrocketed and with that the number of everything increased.

    If there was a world with 100 people and 1 died a year from homicide and another world with 1000 people but 2 people die a year from homicide, a JW would say: “look, twice as many murders!” But we should look at the chances of us being killed and it’s vastly lower in the second case.

    One could argue that hiccuping has gotten worse and worse because there are more hiccups today than ever—only because there are more people now than ever. But it’s the rate that matters. Yet with war death stats and poverty stats the don’t do this. They almost always focus on absolute numbers. But unless we are willing to say: “hiccuping is getting worse,” then we shouldn’t use the absolute number type of comparison. Hiccuping isn’t getting worse. There are just more people and hence more hiccups per year.

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  20. Remember the book "Your Youth getting the Best out of it …….." It gave bad advice to JW children anyway ,,,,

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  21. I have about 287 videos in my “world better” playlist. This one below shows some stats about teenagers in the US.

    https://youtu.be/4SfcGmEVuBY
    “Healthcare triage #9, The sky isn’t falling”

    If I made videos for JW, I would focus on Steven pinker and Hans Rosling and Matt Ridley and all sorts of global metrics for world condition trends. I feel it’s an area that has been neglected.

    The message of JW is essentially: “everything is getting worse and here is the solution, the kingdom.”
    I would make a channel almost exclusively to this. Poverty, child mortality, homicide, war death rate, deaths by natural disaster, etc. All the social rights freedoms we now have.

    There are very few metrics that are heading in the wrong direction.

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  22. I love Stuff you Should know podcast too! Also you are absolutely right. I used to defend young people in the .org all the time. For people who believe they are going to live forever, they really hate reminders of their mortality, including their own children.

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  23. A good example is crossing my legs. Older relatives would tell me to sit like a lady even if I wasn't showing underwear. Was I wrong? Was I hurting anyone? No. But because I was a tomboy and not a lady I was "wrong"

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  24. What has changed in the world, is not that kids have changed and are getting worse… Humans societies have changed their view of children… There has NEVER been a totally safe birth control method. Women are held totally responsible for birth control and are blamed for the unwanted children when the birth control does not work. Many men think they are entitled to sex, and have no respect for the women in their life. So all of today's societies ideas of marriage is not about forming a family unit and taking care of the needs of the children. Today marriage has become about fulfilling the evolved "idea" of what "human's sexual needs" are. Human societies have evolved around the male sex drive with no thought or regard over what the by-product of sex is… The needs of the children… The majority of men in ALL societies are driven more by lustful desire not love and do not want children. A person does NOT need to be in love to have sex. Women are also not wanting children anymore because they know men only want the sex… If you look into the psychology of human needs, sex is not one of these needs. Sex is a human WANT… You do not die if you don't get laid. Masterbation is NOT a sin… But getting married because you want lots of sex but not the children is a gross act against humanity…

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  25. When I stated right below I was not in a cult like any of you I pray that didn't sound condescending. I did not mean it that way at all. I consider myself fortunate to have not been subject to these type of groups and my heart goes out for you and to you  and I didn't mean to sound haughty or the likes if it came across that way to anyone. That was not my intention.

    Thank you.

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  26. In all fairness, it's not just jw's who do this, it's a general society thing 😛
    I see decent, friendly, respectful kids (people in general tbh) every day from all kind of backgrounds.

    Honestly we are also more sensitive nowadays. Things our parents did were called pranks back then, now the same kind of act is seen as criminal and the child must have horrible parents etc. Social media and the general media that like to create outrage about everything make it worse as well.

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  27. I always thought it was funny that the witness kids I had to hang out with, they were the ones doing secret parties where there would be crazy amounts of alcohol and sex going on in plain sight which they disguised as "bible studies" and my worldly friends my parents didn't really know about hung out at the friggin library or volunteered in animal shelters….

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  28. I have had good and bad experiences with some of the young kids these days. I don't think all are that way but I can tell that some have sense of entitlement regardless of their behavior. I have met some that are very respectful and others that just don't give a damn and they work in customer service.

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